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    I am looking for a handheld manual focus film camera between £500 - £600 semi domestic that records to HD or SD and plays nicely with either MAC of PC with support for Codecs H264/MPEG 4.

    I havent much of a clue what any of that means but have been asked to get 15 or 20 models and prices.

    Its to be used in Final Cut Studio/Pro and After Effects.


    ta
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    I thought you'd have to go high-end DSLR for manual focus, but a guy in work recommended a Canon Vixia HF200

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbX83hm735o&feature=related

    Asking you to find 15-20 models is taking the piss a bit.

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    yeah the new DSLR's all seem to handle HD - my 500D does even though i havent used it yet.
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    cheers peeps - any more for any more welcome

    Asking you to find 15-20 models is taking the piss a bit


    haha - no problem! i'm going see if i can up the ask by a factor of 10, just for the crack like

    my 500D does even though i havent used it yet


    get on case the norm we (as in legion) wanna see the results
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    The new Canon 550D produces some of the highest quality HD video around. So much so barely anyone is buying it for its still photo capability. It even has a slightly better sensor than the MUCH more expensive Canon 7D.

    Just look at the beauty. Imagine getting image quality like this from a £700 camera a few years ago??

    FEBRUARY - shot on the Canon EOS 550D / Rebel T2i (preprod unit) from Nino Leitner on Vimeo.



    Now I have a little more cash and spare time I am getting back into filmmaking. I'm building a rig like this. For a couple of grand total I can have a camera setup that would have cost me tens of thousands a few years ago and not even have given me half the image quality.

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    Maybe it's worth mentioning that the Nikon D90 is a cheaper SLR camera that does HD 720p video. In capable hands the video is amazing. Although, in saying that, in the hands of a complete amateur the manual focus thing on video-capable DSLRs can be a nightmare.

    I sent the missus off with some of my kit (Nikon D90) to do an interview for her blog. I gave her about 30 mins lecture on how to use the manual focus, set up shots, etc and she still came back with hours of blurry messed up footage that she wanted me to turn into a video for her. Evidence below (just a 3-4min trailer)...

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    A few better examples of videos made with Nikon D90...

    http://vimeo.com/5684865
    http://vimeo.com/4606259
    http://vimeo.com/5390801
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    Wow, owners really do look like their dogs, don't they?

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    haha, I knew someone would comment on her appearance. We're a superficial bunch here at DO, aren't we?
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    That's a rhetorical question, right?

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    I have to say, if I was buying now, I'd pick the Canon 550D over the Nikon D90 simply for the adjustable frame rates. That video gecko posted is obviously taking advantage of using the 60fps rate then slowing it down to 25fps or whatever to achieve that super-smooth slo-mo effect.
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    It's really amazing how good cameras are at taking video now. There's really not much difference between still and video cameras anymore. And Gecko: that rig looks fecking crazy, what are you going to use it for?

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    Shooting short films/music videos. Its a totally capable movie rig.

    Its generally accepted that this was the year DSLR cameras matured to the point of actually rivalling movie and high end video cameras. Check this out:

    Shooting Driving Plates for 24 from Stargate Studios on Vimeo.

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    some very cool looking stuff there done with DSLR


    what - if any - is the reason someone would choose a camcorder over a DSLR?
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    what - if any - is the reason someone would choose a camcorder over a DSLR?

    auto-focus, better on-board sound capture, longer continuous recording capability, ease of handling, etc.
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    ok - quite a few then, ta

    cheers all for the info - will take onboard and add it to the mix
 
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