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    Hey,

    Through my companies quest for online psd and ai editing tools. We discussed with a rep at adobe about creating adobe suite for web. They did confirm that it is something they are currently working on and will be more in the next year. How do you feel this will impact the graphic arts industry?
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    How do you feel this will impact the graphic arts industry?

    I'm not sure it'll have a big impact (if I'm reading this right - as being able to edit PSD/AI via a web browser) - trying to type a simple word document in Google Docs etc is a bit a challenge at the moment and takes longer than the desktop version, so I fail to see how it could be fully featured and/or usable.

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    I think they should make a version of CS for Mac that isn't a bloated port / ui nightmare first.

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    This whiffs of market research to me mister first time poster.
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    Adobe needs to scrap a good portion of their apps and start from scratch. The minute Pixelator matures a bit, I'll be Adobe free.

    --jj
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    Adobe seems to either be supremely arrogant or just incompetent these days. Even Nack's blog's turned into a "WE ARE RIGHT!" argument, blaming everyone bar Adobe for Adobe's own screw-ups. When things don't work, it's always Apple's fault, or the user's. It's never down to Adobe.

    It's such a shame. Photoshop used to be a joy to use, but as soon as Adobe glued its apps together into CS and started its 18-month cycle everything started going to shit. Along with starting from scratch, the company should separate its apps back out again, rather than forcing a pointless update to app 'x', in order to satisfy its justification for CS'n+1'. I wonder if the company at its highest level even realises that a huge percentage of its customers no longer use its products because they want to, but because they have no viable alternative.
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    i have seriously loved adobe since 1996, i seem to recall sending a drunken lovestruck email to them years ago asking if I could marry their product, but all the above points about hasty updates resonate - stop trying to shove shitty upgrades through to cash in and concentrate on making whats already there work consistently you fecking cnuts adobe


    I like swear words

    http://adobegripes.tumblr.com/

    online adobe - piffle
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    Just downloaded an Adobe app for reading eBooks and saw this typo on the downloader.

    How does a large company like Adobe miss shit like this?

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    Because they're too busy grinding my computer to a halt installing meaningless updates to Reader in the middle of the afternoon.
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    Because they're too busy grinding my computer to a halt installing meaningless updates to Reader in the middle of the afternoon.

    Hate that... Google are getting worse as well, with "Google Updater" constantly running in the background like a never-ending rash.

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    AdobeCrashDaemon never seems to fuck off either. Rather indicative of how shit Adobe apps are.
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    Adobe confirmed recently (in response to the Flash/Apple bashfest) that the code across platforms including Flash plugin is pretty much the same stuff inside. In other words they've ported the Windows apps to Mac, which explains a lot.

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    So Mr Derekkohn?

    Does any of this help you in your "quest"?
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    Yes Mr Derekkohn, what he said.
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    In other words they've ported the Windows apps to Mac, which explains a lot.

    I always thought it was the other way around, and that's why we all use Macs.
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    My guess is when Macs used PowerPC architecture Adobe designed for the platform, when they went across to Intel they just ported the Windows code across. I rarely hear Windows users complain about the stability of Flash or other Adobe apps, can't say the same for my own experience using Adobe software since the Intel change, or what I hear from others. They've either ported Windows specific apps or they're just shit these days.

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    Adobe apps have had a shared code-based for way longer than since the Intel switch.
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    I think they're just shit now. I once logged 25 Flash crashes in one day on a Windows machine.

    I'm on a Mac now, which I don't really like for use at work. But at it doesn't crash so much.
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    Adobe apps have had a shared code-based for way longer than since the Intel switch.

    Even Microsoft have the sense to create Mac specific apps.

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    I don't know how much of Office is ground-up code, although Microsoft at one point was one of the best Mac devs. (Today, Microsoft's also fallen behind—its apps are starting to feel very bloated and dated, and are very unstable on Snow Leopard.)

    Frankly, I just wish someone would come out with a viable alternative to Photoshop, just to give Adobe a kick up the arse. I don't want the company to vanish—I want it to become great again.

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