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			<title type="text">Do. - Helvetica, Web and Windows</title>
			<updated>2010-09-07T20:04:44+01:00</updated>
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		<title>Helvetica, Web and Windows</title>
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		<published>2007-10-16T15:14:12+01:00</published>
		<updated>2007-10-16T15:14:34+01:00</updated>
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			<name>Warren</name>
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			So if I wanna use Helvetica for my lovely Mac visitors, is Arial still the closest alternative for Windows visitors? Or is there something nicer with Vista?

And when it comes to the CSS, do you ...
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			<![CDATA[So if I wanna use Helvetica for my lovely Mac visitors, is Arial still the closest alternative for Windows visitors? Or is there something nicer with Vista?<br /><br />And when it comes to the CSS, do you just specify "Helvetica" or "Helvetica Neue" (which seems to be the prefered version on the Mac). Is there any need to specify weights? Or can you even?<br /><br />Something like:<br /><br /><code >font-family: &quot;helvetica neue&quot;, helvetica, arial, san-serif</code><br /><br />Incidentally, I see Leopard is coming with fonts "such as"... "Tahoma", and "Microsoft Sans Serif". Will be interesting to see the full list. <a href="http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html#fonts" >Leopard fonts link</a>]]>
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		<title>Helvetica, Web and Windows</title>
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		<published>2007-10-16T15:34:32+01:00</published>
		<updated>2010-09-07T20:04:44+01:00</updated>
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			<name>stick</name>
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			&gt; Papyrus Condensed

Can't wait :)

`font-family: &quot;helvetica neue&quot;, arial, helvetica, san-serif`


Specify arial before helvetica I'm afraid, as windows helvetica has shit browser ...
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  <p>Papyrus Condensed</p>
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<p>Can't wait :)</p>

<p><code>font-family: "helvetica neue", arial, helvetica, san-serif</code></p>

<p>Specify arial before helvetica I'm afraid, as windows helvetica has shit browser rendering.</p>
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		<title>Helvetica, Web and Windows</title>
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		<published>2007-10-16T15:50:44+01:00</published>
		<updated>2010-09-07T20:04:44+01:00</updated>
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			<name>Warren</name>
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			Cheers - didn't even think Windows had helvetica at all.
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			<![CDATA[Cheers - didn't even think Windows had helvetica at all.]]>
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		<title>Helvetica, Web and Windows</title>
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		<published>2007-10-16T15:54:12+01:00</published>
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			<name>SockPuppet</name>
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			I don't think it does by default, I've never seen it.
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			<![CDATA[I don't think it does by default, I've never seen it.]]>
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		<title>Helvetica, Web and Windows</title>
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		<published>2007-10-16T16:08:56+01:00</published>
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			<name>stick</name>
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			Not by default, but those that do will thank you for not specifying it.
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			<![CDATA[<p>Not by default, but those that do will thank you for not specifying it.</p>
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